[Notendo]

Hi there,

I recently watched a preview for a movie called Lama Thunderbolt. Check it out here!

Lama Thunderbolt, or Max, which is I guess is his original given name, teaches a system of neigong called Kunlun Bliss Practice or Kunlun Formless Form Neigong or something like that. Basically I'm wondering if this is a system taught by anybody other than Max? How about historically, has anybody heard of this system mentioned in any books or anything? Are there any Daoist classics that mention it? Do they mention how practitioners of this system are taking part of the next stage of human evolution, or is that a claim unique to Max's video? Anybody been to his seminars?

[shawnsegler]

Looks like he has lots of marketing fu.

I'm leary, and by leary I mean pretty sure he's out for your money.

S

[Mike Roberts]

The orgasmic Girls were pretty cool

mike

[jafc]

I think we already discussed this guy a few months back.
I'll look for the forum link.
JC

[jafc]

i cant find it. It may have been before we switched to the new site.

I have always wondered why focus on the "next level in human evolution" when we have not mastered the current one.

JC

[yun]

This thread belongs in BTDT. Mike Roberts posted about it in http://www.emptyflow...h...20&start=20


It doesn't have to be said again, but what the heck.... FAKE

[Notendo]

Oi, I was actually more wondering about the kunlun system, like did this guy just make this shit up out of nowhere or is it, somewhere, a legitimate system that he's co-opted for his own bizarre ends?

[Mike Roberts]

This thread belongs in BTDT. Mike Roberts posted about it in http://www.emptyflow...h...20&start=20


It doesn't have to be said again, but what the heck.... FAKE

I posted it here After seeing it in the main forum

[Bär]

His name sounds like some Disney cartoon racing lama. Thunderbolt? He also might be a 11 year old nascar fan.

[ashe]

like did this guy just make this shit up out of nowhere or is it,

i think a give away is the use of the title "lama", which afaik, is used by the tibetans and maybe nepalese, etc. but not by the chinese, and yet he's wearing daoist robes and hat.

it's like me calling myself guru, while wearing a toga and teaching sambo. if he's gonna wear a costume, at least he could be consistent.

but i'm far from an expert. anybody else wanna chime in on the use of the "lama" title? (here's what wiki says)

This post has been edited by ashe: 05 March 2008 - 06:31 PM

[Northwind]

Very much a Da Vinci code thing here, in that the site specifically states it as a "movie", however many people will interpret as he exposal of "truth." It is entertaining though

[Ian C Kuzushi]

I have heard of Lin Kong Jin, but this dude has Lin Kong DONG!!!!!

[qiphlow]

empty cock?

[WujiRob]

i think a give away is the use of the title "lama", which afaik, is used by the tibetans and maybe nepalese, etc. but not by the chinese, and yet he's wearing daoist robes and hat.

it's like me calling myself guru, while wearing a toga and teaching sambo. if he's gonna wear a costume, at least he could be consistent.

but i'm far from an expert. anybody else wanna chime in on the use of the "lama" title? (here's what wiki says)

I belief you can earn the title by studying with a lama (which would be somewhat consistent with Wiki's explanation "The title can be used as an honorific title conferred on a monk, nun or [...] advanced tantric practitioner to designate a level of spiritual attainment and authority to teach [...]", although I'm not sure whether being a monk would be mandatory). I know of a Chinese teachter who studied Tibetan Buddhist meditation with a lama and is authorized to teach and thus (?) received a Tibetan name and the "lama" title. Obviously, I wasn't there when all of this happened

[EmptyLotus]

I have taken a Kunlun seminar and Max is the real deal. It is sad that people talk about someone before going to check it out.

I have felt the energy and it is an amazing practice. Personally, I and many others I know have gotten a lot out of it. You are confused because he is both a Tibetan lama and a Taoist Teacher. Some people are just advanced people and are adept in more than one lineage (Dhyani Ywahoo). I met and worked with another Lama in Max's Nyingma lineage, and am about to meet and study with one of his teachers who is from his Taoist lineage.

Also Tibetan Nyingma teachers are house holders and are not necessarily celebate monks.

As far as the movie goes, Max is actually giving empowerments on film (opening of wisdom eye etc.) to the ones who are ready for it. These students are some of the ones who have been with him the longest. This is for the sake of realization, and opening of one's full potential.
No one is faking it that I know of. I have met a few of the people in the film and they wouldn't get anything out of faking it. I have felt those very same sensations from the practice myself and working with him, and had openings within the practice. Some are subtle and some dramatic. It depends what you are ready for.


M

[xingyijesse]

How long has "Max" been doing this? And whats the point of it all? I am leary of that stuff, simply because if you want to be a martial artist then you have to train to fight, not launch people across the room. Tons of Tai Chi people can do up rooting and they aren't mystical. I don't doubt your belief in him, I'm just curious how a white boy learned all this stuff and he isn't that much older than me. It took me years to get into an inner circle and I'm still learning what I was taught, I'm not a master of anything yet. So really just the fact that he is so young and proclaims to be a master makes me doubt.

[Ko Hsuan]

xingyijesse, on 06 April 2010 - 05:41 AM, said:

How long has "Max" been doing this? And whats the point of it all? I am leary of that stuff, simply because if you want to be a martial artist then you have to train to fight, not launch people across the room. Tons of Tai Chi people can do up rooting and they aren't mystical. I don't doubt your belief in him, I'm just curious how a white boy learned all this stuff and he isn't that much older than me. It took me years to get into an inner circle and I'm still learning what I was taught, I'm not a master of anything yet. So really just the fact that he is so young and proclaims to be a master makes me doubt.

check taobums website.. LOTS of discussions on Kunlun Neigong